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>> i am melissa francis. >> i am lori rothman. so much for progress on the fiscal cliff talks. at least for today. progress getting a fever pitch as john boehner says white house needs to get serious. senate majority leader harry reid says he is waiting for a serious offer from republicans. so there you can see the stock market slightly higher, reacting to every last word coming out of capitol hill. now the dow was higher, but off of the best levels of the session as we make progress. melissa arizona is the latest state to refuse the exchange. we will bring on judge andrew napolitano to talk about this one. lori: "time" magazine announcing it candidate for person of the year. wait until you hear who the candidates are. we will handicap the list with lou dobbs. melissa stocks as we do every 15 minutes. nicole petallides standing by. stocks are losing sseam as house speaker john boehner took the podium although they have recovered a bit. nicole: is difficult to monitor which way and guess which way the market will go as each headline process crosses, we'reg the market being star
in on these fiscal cliff talks. here is "the new york times" -- in the "financial times" this morning -- roger altman writing today in "the financial times." president obama will be meeting with several governors today at the white house to talk about the fiscal cliff. they will be meeting this morning around 10:00 a.m. eastern time, and then the governors are slated to hold a news conference at around 11:30 a.m. eastern time. go to our website for more details. washington insiders tackle fiscal cliff policy solutions. the group will hold a roundtable discussion today on the importance of reform to address the nation's debt and deficit spending this event takes place this morning around 8:30 a.m. eastern time. go to our website for all our coverage of the fiscal cliff talks. we have a web site set up so you can follow along on our special page for these fiscal cliff talks. back to your phone calls. good morning, doris. caller: good morning. the plan that the republicans offered, this is just the romney-ryan plan that the american voters said no to. other than destroying our earned benefit, i do not c
demanding the fiscal cliff talks be taken out of the shadows. why does he accuse the president of secret negotiations? that's next. many small business owners saying they can't pay for obamacare. but that's not the only thing about the health care law that has them worried. a las vegas business owner tells you about another big problem, one you probably haven't heard about before that may be your problem. plus, he's back. who could forget the drunk guy singing bohemian rhapsody in a police car. wait until you see what he is up to now. you don't want to miss this. it istory of moms, has ever turned down a handmade ornament. that's why we sat up santa's wonderland at bass pro shops. kids can get their free picture with santa, and this week make a... all for free. >> greta: what is the big secret about the fiscal cliff? senator jeff sessions blasting president obama and congressional leaders for holding secret talks. he joins us. what do you moon by secret? >> these talks are -- these talks are going on somebody leaked part of what is going on some sort of outline from the white house that
irrespective of any fiscal cliff talk. this is all thanks to obamacare? >> yeah, that's exactly right, megyn. there was a surtax in the health care law, supposedly to pay for medicare, but they raised it -- they raided the money out of medicare before it even arrived to pay for the new obamacare spending. it's 0.9% additional medicare tax on wages of high income earners, and it is 3.8% on all unearned income, so capital gains, dividends, rental income, interest, any other unearned income has this new 3.8% surtax, and that's on top of whatever might happen in these fiscal cliff talks. megyn: so that is happening. if you make $200,000 as an individual or 250 as a family, it's happening as of january 1. >> well, looks that way. my parsing of speaker boehner's offer in the fiscal cliff talks is that this is going to happen no matter what. they talked about holding the line -- megyn: no, wait, wait, wait, let me interrupt because i just don't want to confuse the two, because all the taxes are confusing. i'm saying this surtax, this .9 income tax surtax, and then this 3.8% surtax on nearly all cap
, president obama and john byron finally discussing the fiscal cliff. they talked by telephone yesterday. with just 26 days remaining to get a deal done, there are signs of compromise on the republican side. oklahoma's republican senator tom coburn a leading conservative saying he is okay with raising taxes on the wealthiest 2% of americans. in a few moments, soledad o'brien will talk with oregon senator is jeff merkley. he sits on the budget committee. >>> naeem davis now charged with murder for allegedly pushing a man off a new york city subway platform. davis was arraigned last night on a second-degree murder charge. police say he pushed 50-year-old ki-suk han on to the tracks and into the path of an oncoming subway train. >>> internet security pioneer john mcafee could be deported to belize as early as today. guatemalan officials detained mcafee yesterday. they accuse him of entering their country illegally. he turned up in guatemala on tuesday after disappearing from his home in belize. police there want to question mcafee in connection with a murder, his neighbor's murder. he says
cliff talks. kayla is live with that. >> reporter: a little bit of movement potentially. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone yesterday as democrats and republicans continue to dig their heels in over this budget standoff. there's been no announcement of any new face the face talks as lawmakers try to reach a deal to avoid the so called fiscal cliff in january. treasury secretary tim geithner tells cnbc republicans have made a little progress, but the obama administration is "absolutely ready to go over the cliff if the gop doesn't agree to raise tax rates on wealthy americans." apple has lost a bit of its shine. the tech giant stock suffering its worst day in four years on thursday. several factors may have been at play. investors worried apple may be giving up ground in the tablet market to rivals, while nokia beat the company to the punch. there are also unconfirmed reports a stock clearinghouse firm is reducing the margin requirements on apple stock. apple lost $35 billion in market value yesterday. to put that into perspective, there are 417 companies listed
. >>> could it be a sign that the stalemate in the fiscal cliff talks could be resolved soon. wednesday, president obama spoke with john boehner and eric cantor says the gop is ready to, quote, talk specific. if an agreement is not reached, defense employees will take a hard hit. almost half of the automatic cuts that would take effect will impact the department of defense and civilian employees are expected to be first to feel it. >>> new this morning, the duchess of cambridge is out of hospital and as we see in this video, just in to the newsroom, she and prince william were seen leaving about 0 minutes ago to head to kensington palace. the couple is expecting their first child and kate had been hospitalized for severe morning sickness. her stay in the hospital was uneventful except for a prank call by a pair of australian dj is pretrending to be the queen and prince charles. >>> same-sex couples in washington state line up to say i do and the state rolls out a controversial new law that legalizes smoking pot in private. >> a software giant arrested. john mcafee is at the center of an
budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> hold up the budget and say democrats on capitol hill vote for including the spending cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. that is not what they are doing now. should they include those? >> yes. i think that, and i know that democrats accept that this has to be it, a balanced package, that includes revenues and cuts and spending cuts. >> months ago, the budget carney held up was voted down by the entire senate. 99-0. meaning no democratic support. earlier, dick durbin insisted spending cuts from entitlement reform will not be part of the talks while pelosi spell noncommittal whether the cuts will be in the deal. still, the administration is trying to breathe life to the talks, with vice president biden shopping at new costco in washington, picking up a big screen tv and apple pie and insisting he is optimistic of a deal. >> i am. i am. all the folks in the store, man. going to make a difference. >> carney shot down a politico report that a phone call last night between boehner and the president was curt, noting it was 28 min
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are our troops dying and yet we just seem to go on and on talking about the fiscal cliff? well, i know that's important. mr. speaker, it is time for congress to realize that we are having young men and women to die in afghanistan for a failed policy that will not change one thing. mr. speaker, before closing, i make reference to this poster of a young american in a casket being carried by his colleagues to be buried. please, american people, put pressure on congress to bring our troops home now and not wait until december, 2014. i ask god to please bless our men and women in uniform, to please bless the loved ones who lost those in iraq and afghanistan. please, god, help get our troops home now and not later. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizing the gentleman from oregon, mr. blumenauer, for five minutes. mr. blumenauer: mr. speaker, mitt romney weathered a storm of criticism late in the campaign after hurricane sandy for his earlier comments about privatizing fema and turning responsibility back to state and local governments. but during an era of fiscal restra
the looming fiscal cliff. talked about business concerns as you head into the end of the year and even what to expect in 2014. bank of america has 55 million customers here in america. they represent one out of every two households. so moynihan has a very good idea about what consumers are doing and if they spending less because of the fiscal cliff. here's what he had to say. >> i'm more about business behavior than consumer behavior. people continue to spend, housing is a little better. all the things that affect stock market are in decent shape. the question was will everything going on cause them on slow down again. >> what are you you see rg businesses right now? >> almost a year and a halving a go, businesses getting concerned about the nature of the dialogue about the fiscal situation? washington and in europe and the issues that had to be dealt with long term and how it affects near term business in terms of what would be accelerated appreciation for investment in business. what will be the final demand. so the uncertainty factor started weighing in and caused everybody to be much mo
over the fiscal cliff talks. now republicans and democrats can't even agree on where things stand. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks. >> and you know there is progress. >> treasury secretary tim geithner sat down with bipartisan congressional leaders to keep pushing for a deal. a top boehner aide said the plan geithner presented is, quote, completely unrealistic. and a top democratic aide said republicans have taken to screaming at them. if no action is taken by december 31st, 650 billion in cuts to the pentagon and domestic programs and tax increases automatically go into effect. after the meeting, the finger-pointing came quickly. republicans say democrats aren't bringing to the table a plan that include significant cuts to medicare and entitlement programs. >> revenue was only on the table. if they were serious. spending cuts. >> the white house drew its own line in the sand and said tax rates must go up on the top earners, but -- >> the middle-class tax cut should be made permanent. >> president obama stayed out of the fiscal cliff discussions and sat down
the fiscal cliff, all of the talk of the talk shows on sunday and of all of the political websites and newsletters, including the national journal hotline, one of my favorite reads, editor in chief reed wilson joining us. good to have you back caller: hi, bill. >> bill: fiscal cliff, 29 or 30 days ago left today? it's pretty simple to me it seems to me if they scheduled a vote in the house of representatives on the tax cut, continuing tax cut for 98% of americans, it would probably pass. don't you think? >> i am not entirely certain about that. i mean the -- i think the democrats have started coming around on their messaging a little bit. at the beginning of this, they were talking about, president obama, too, were talking about extending tax breaks for 98% of americans, 97% of small businesses. >> that's not true. the tax breaks for any -- for income under $250,000 extends to 100% of americans. everybody gets it. >> the president said that friday in pennsylvania. >> obama had started to talk about how everybody would get these tax breaks with the
are mired in conversations about a fiscal cliff on the very right now. we're talking about long-term infrastructure build-out, a long-term energy plan. what role should c.e.o.'s have and the federal government have in making sure this gets done? >> this is the perfect opportunity for the federal government and for state governments to work together to achieve a common goal, right? there's plenty of times where, when we run a business, our interests might not coalesce with the interests of either of the parties. as fred said, this is the opportunity that we have never had in this country before, where you can have consumer, the business and the governments all working together to take advantage of this huge resource, if you want to call it saudi america. from a waste management perspective, for us it makes so much sense, because it makes business sense. we get about $1.65 equivalent with natural gas and $4.10 diesel, so it makes great sense for our business. from a government point of view everybody today is talking about jobs and the fiscal cliff. our recommendations in the repo
virginia family today to put a face on the so-called fiscal cliff. tonight we talked with that family that's now in the national spotlight. >>> a well-known senator handed in his resignation today. >>> a few minutes ago the
are going to be talking about the fiscal cliff, the statements the house speaker made about being a stalemate and what the president said during his trip to a toy factory in pennsylvania. here are the numbers. you can also reach out to us by e-mail and twitter and facebook, all of the social media as. on twitter the addresses @cspanwj, facebook.com/cspan. more from the article by jake sherman with the headline " fiscal cliff." he writes -- let's go to the phones. the first call comes from debbie in flint, mich. on the line for democrats. caller: i think they need to pass a law that these guys did not get paid. if i go to work and did not do my job, they will not pay me. they have not done their jobs in the years. they need to listen to the american people. we picked barack obama up for a reason because we like his policies. they need to get a clue. they are already struggling and having a hard time. if they do not get a clue, they will not be back there. host: republicans say the president and democrats are not making any good-faith offers, the same thing democrats say about repub
-called fiscal cliff. the president and republican leaders came out tough today with some tough talk about the other side's plan. fox 5s tom fitzgerald was following the story. 26 more days to go on this. >> reporter: time is running out, shawn. involving a white house and top gop officials were both out talking a lot today about the need to strike a fiscal cliff deal and what they were doing is tacking with each other, with no new talks scheduled between the major players in the debate and the speaker of the house finds himself defending his own plans for members of his own party. in northwest d.c., president obama is on the hard sell trying to convince a group of business executives to support raising taxes on the wealthy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up the top 2%, and that includes all of you, yes? >> reporter: saying a fiscal cliff deal must include new revenues. the president pushed his plan to raise taxes on household earning over $250,000 a year. >> and i am here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> reporter: john boehner has a hard sell of his own w
speaker banner expressed his feelings on the fiscal cliff. we are talking budgets and essential programs. how is the state of utah handling all of this wow it is day four. we welcome utah governor in a fox business exclusive. welcome, governor. we begin by asking all of our governors, what are you doing? what action are you taking in advance? >> well, we have done what is proper and prudent. we live within our means. we do not have unnecessary debt. we have a rainy day surplus funds. that helps insulate us against some of the ups and downs of the market place nationally. our unemployment rate has dropped to 5.2. we are creating jobs. we are growing wealth in the private sector. our personal income is going up also. we are doing things that they ought to be doing in washington, d.c. liz: in the next three weeks, as you have meetings with your staff, you tell me, we talked about, for example, they have to prepare two separate budgets. how are you expected to be affected if, for example, 30% of your budget comes from federal funding, what if that goes away? >> 80% of that does not impact us
the scenes of the talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. it seems the framework for a deal actually might be taking shape. if so, what will it look like? david drucker has been nosing around a little bit. the associate politics editor at "roll call." when you hear senators and speaker of the house come out and talk it doesn't sound like they're all that close, david. are you optimistic? >> well i'm sort of on the fence here, jon. whenever you hear members of congress talk about any kind of fiscal cliff deal you have to approach it with a sort of believe everything and believe nothing attitude. i think that everybody wants to avoid having taxes go up for all americans as of january 1st but everybody has a price for that. and it, to me, it's about whether or not both sides are looking for a win-win deal, meaning, my opponent wins and i win. or whether both sides or one of the sides are looking for a deal where only i win and you lose and on top of all of that then we have to look at what do they want to include in any sort of deal? are we going to address entitlement reform? are we going to cut spend
heads back to work this morning as the clock is ticking down toward the impending fiscal cliff. talks, though, seem to be at a stalemate. yesterday with just 29 days until tax hikes and deep spending cuts kick in. both republicans and the democrats were running to the airwaves to try to explain their positions. here's what they said. >> what we're not going to do is extend those tax cuts with the wealthiest americans. those cost a trillion dollars over ten years and there's no possibility that we're going to find a way to get our fiscal house in order without those tax rates going back up. >> nobody wants to go over the cliff. that's why the day after the election i tried to speed this process up by making the concession to put revenues on the table. it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> the administration has presented a plan that calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenues. $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlements. $50 billion for a new stimulus and congress would have to give up control over raising the debt limit. re
-888-xarelto or visit goxarelto.com. >>> let me finish tonight with this. this fiscal cliff we talk about, i'm afraid is no bungee jump. what goes down doesn't by necessity come back up. this is why i've warned to know the president is working here for an early deal, one before christmas. this country needs to get back on its feet economically. we went through financial chaos under w. president obama came in to right things. he's been doing it, gradually getting us to forget how bad things were. fortunately for him the voters remember how bad they were. that's one reason they don't blame obama for the weak economy, they still blame w. this isn't about right or wrong. it's about being smart and not putting the country a
. john boehner said there has been no substantive progress in the fiscal cliff talks. >> whose fault is that. >> stephanie: yes, they have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. it's the same kind of rhetoric, isn't it? >> caller: i guess the election is not over. >> stephanie: yeah yeah, yeah. that seems to be the critical thing. they don't seem to realize that the american people have spoken. >> caller: i think everyone is trying to position himself here to get down to brass tacks which is what is going to happen before you go into oblivion. i'm not surprised with what is going on. the president made a proposal yesterday. $1.6 trillion in revenues which included $960 billion in raising marginal rates. we want the president to keep his promise. that's what the elections are all about. >> stephanie: that's right. we were just reading the latest "washington post" "abc news" poll and it echos the exit polls. 61% want those to pay their fair share, and 70% don't want them to raise the social security medicare eligibility rate. >> that's not the problem raising the rates on the wel
the real problems, the fiscal cliff, and the other group is talking about the real problem, the debt and deficit. what is the real issue? we have $16.3 trillion in debt as a nation. $1 trillion of overspending or each year for the last four years. let me set the example of what this really means. in 2007, our tax revenue, how much we were bringing in the treasury, is almost exactly what it is in 2012. from 2007 to 2012, the revenue is almost identical. the difference is our spending has gone up $1 trillion a year. from 2007 to 2012. so over the course of that time it's slowly built up. but each year we've been over $1 trillion in spending. while our revenue has stayed consistent basically from 2007 to 2012, that spending has happened. we seemed to identify that is the real problem, we're overspending, and until you deal with that issue you can't raise taxes enough to be able to keep up with the $1 trillion of accelerated spending. what's the cliff? i have so many people from my district and other people, who catch me and pull me aside. we hear about the fiscal cliff. we are not even
to say. >> stephanie: oh. >> caller: all of this talk about the fiscal cliff. i like you don't buy it but more importantly i'm getting ready to be twenty-four, and back in my grandpa's time we had a thing called glass spiegel, we put a man on the moon because of it. we built hoover dam. alaska wouldn't have been alaska without it. >> stephanie: that's right. >> caller: you know this policy -- you probably know more about it than i do. i have only read about it in political science class, but i was wondering wouldn't it be better if we went back to something like that, instead of just reinforcement of to clinton era tax rates and the reagan tax rates -- why don't we just go back to the old way of doing things -- >> stephanie: exactly. >> caller: because the rich -- we had billionaires with all of those taxes -- >> stephanie: that's right. absolutely. charlie cristenson said that this morning. the fact that there is all this hysteria over oh no we might have to go to the low 30s percent range. [ screaming ] [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: all righ
a successful outcome not just for these fiscal cliff talks but also to this longer term issue of debt and deficit and economic growth. i was asked today to focus a little bit on what might be possible in terms of tax reform . i know tax reform and health care reform are the two topics we're discussing this morning. again, i look forward to hearing from gene and also this distinguished panel behind us. with regard to the tax and health care reform issues, i'll make a simple point which is that if we go through this fiscal cliff discussion and do not take advantage of that opportunity to put in place reforms to the entitlement programs, which are incredibly important, but also unsustainable, and if we do not take advantage of it to look at our tax system which is antiquated and outdated, inefficient, we will have squandered the opportunity to really address the longer term problem. we'll be right back on the cliff again. so, first fiscal cliff is approaching, we have to address it. if we do not we'll see about $500 billion in tax increases, we'll see huge across the board d arbitrary cu
day closer. we're talking about this every day about the fiscal cliff and yet major players are still not sitting down to talk. >> but there was some encouraging news yesterday. president obama and house speaker john boehner did speak on the telephone. right now, though, there's no evidence any future negotiations are scheduled. a new poll by the associated press shows 48% of those asked support letting tax cuts expire january 1 for those earning more than $250,000 a year. but extending them for everyone else. >> just 32% think the cuts should be extended across the boards. >> at 6:37 rchtion it's time for -- at 6:37, it's time for another your money report. >> jessica doyle is talking about the real possibility we actually will indeed go over the cliff. >> they say good things come to those who wait except maybe in the case of the fiscal cliff. timothy geithner said the administration will absolutely take the leap. but some say both sides could wait till january to get down to business without any big economic consequences. the expiration of the bush tax cuts forcing tax rates higher
making his case for action on the fiscal cliff today in pennsylvania. we'll talk to republican congressman jim gerlach from that state about the trip and what needs to happen to get a deal done. >> one thing is for sure, fiscal cliff comments from washington have been having an impact. >> i would hope our friends on the other side can turn off the campaign. >> we could have prevented this crisis months ago. by just simply adopting what passed in the senate. >> president obama is meeting with high profile chief executive officers today to talk about country's fiscal issues. >> we're here to support doing the right thing and putting america back to work. >> we don't legislate but we know the consequences of a failure to reach an agreement. >> only way democracy works is through compromise at the end of the day. >> i'm optimistic we'll continue to work together. >> our ultimate goal is an agreement that gets long-term deficit under control in a way that is fair and balanced. >> stocks trade on fiscal cliff comments from president obama and john boehner. >> no substantive progress
and forth on the fiscal cliff. lots to talk about around the country. we will give you a chance to sound off and tell us what it means to you at 866-55-press. >> that's our toll-free number. big news on the media front today, it's been revealed fox news has put out the word we don't karl rove and dick morris to pop up on our air any more at least for a little while. no wonder because during campaign, they got everything wrong. you know, you have to be pretty extreme when your two right-wing even for fox news. karl rove and dick morris sayonara. today's latest current news update. lease a ferguson in our studio in los angeles. hi, lease a. good morning. >> hey, bill. good morning, everyone. let's start out with a couple of updates from the senate. first off, g.o.p. members have rejected a treaty from the united nations that would have banned discrimination against people with disabilities. that vote goes against a very impassioned speech from senator john kerry and against the wishes of former senator bob dole. mr. dole was logging to see this treaty pace
manage president obama's re-election campaign. we'll talk more about the fiscal cliff. >>> first a look at other stories that are making news today. zoraida has that for us. >> good morning to you. the death toll in the philippines is rising this morning. typhoon bopha moving toward beach resorts in the northern part of the country and right now it is packing winds over 90 miles an hour. that storm has already caused massive flooding and landslides in the southern philippines. dozens of buildings have been destroyed and the death toll stands at 133 with hundreds more still missing. >>> meantime in rain soaked seattle there are concerns about more mudslides. meteorologist karen maginnis joins us live from atlanta with the latest. they cannot get a break. >> they really can't, and for some folks, this is not coming as good news because it looks like that pineapple express, that moisture coming from deep within the pacific, that's going to be shut off, but we've still got the moisture coming in from the gulf of alaska and that's going to lower the snow levels across the cascades and the ol
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with business leaders again today to talk about the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff. he's also claiming to call on congressional leaders to make sure we raise the debt ceiling without contention. the white house making the case that extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class is directly connected to the health of our businesses. companies need to know consumers will be able to spend and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he sticks to it. >> g.o.p. leaders aren't only dealing with the president and congressional democrats they're dealing with a split within their own ranks. more conservative republicans don't want party leaders to compromise anymore than they think they already have. even though the republican plan offers u
that created it. >> bill: sure. they're the ones who brought us to the fiscal cliff as we were talking yesterday because their super committee failed to do its job and now we have the sequestration hanging over our heads. >> they constantly create a situation, try to blame obama. >> bill: kevin, do you think we dare say look, hold the line and if you don't raise rates on the top 2%, we're not going to make a deal? >> absolutely. hold the line. i'll gladly pay more taxes than to have some rich son of a bitch pay more. >> bill: you and me both. that's all right. i'm willing to do it. i am a patriotic millionaire. i ought to -- i should join the club. thanks, kevin for the call. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." which was just as you say -- maybe it was starve the beast. i'll look it up during the break. going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party o
an out-of-control budget deficit. we're talking about the fiscal cliff. he said -- let's see. interest rates he was talking about are lower than they've been in our living memory. in fact, if there was ever a time for america to borrow more to put people back to work, rebuilding our schools and crumbling infrastructure, it is now. robert reich. see, i would listen to the guys that were there then in the clinton administration. we're asking you what you think why? because -- >> they're the ones who tanked the economy. >> stephanie: okay. lenny in wisconsin. your eaten "the stephanie miller show." >> caller: hi. how you doing, steph? >> stephanie: good. go ahead. >> caller: i have a few things to say. i hope you don't cut me off. >> stephanie: all right. >> caller: i'm a 62-year-old gay man who is on disability and i've got my -- because of scott walker, all of my healthcare removed. all of my food stamps removed. i'm making $700 a month. i have $500 a month in prescriptions which of course, i can't a
carolina three years ago. jenna: we've been talking about the fiscal cliff and the clock is ticking down until the deadline for that amid all the efforts to hammer out a deal on capitol hill. while some warn of the damagers going over a cliff the man known as one of the greatest 20th century advocates for a free market economy may have had a different take. his name was milton freidman, and his greatest concern was really just government, and too much of it. here he is in a clip from the 2006 documentary "1%." >> in the end we'd end up worse off. it would do harm not good. people don't pay those high taxes, they find ways of getting around it. you're never going to be able to stop them from finding ways to get around it. jenna: talking a little bit about taxes there. my next guest has written extensively about milton freidman. we wanted to ask him, what would milton do, one of the greatest economists. nobel peace prize winning economist. we have the author of the inch dense pensable milton freidman. what would he think about all of this. >> great to be with you. i'm sure if milton freidm
sup 15%, sir is up 15%, and mac up 5%. >>> we have been talking about the fiscal cliff, why it may matter to you, but jay leno made lindsay lohan a part of the punch line. >> are you sick and tired of hearing this term fiscal cliff? oh. it turns people off. they don't understand it. doesn't tell you how serious the situation is. they need more colorful metaphors. you know what i'm saying? here's how they should explain it. it's 4:00 a.m. for our economy, and lindsay lohan is behind the wheel. that says danger. people understand that. they understand that. >> everyone in l.a. goes nuts when it rains. oh, no it's raining! it's never been this bad before! people are taking shelter under meg ryan's lips, the whole city -- the whole city smells like a wet kardashian! it's panic here! lindsay lohan went to jail just to stay dry! >> "early start" continues right now. >>> the kansas city chiefs pull off a win the day after one of their own commits suicide. we have new details about his death, the murder of his girlfriend and what happens now to their 3-month-old baby. >>> flooding hits cal
that treats its workers right. i'll talk costco and fiscal cliff with steve greenhouse of "the new york times." >>> plus hostess executives tank their company and cost the people their jobs. so why are they still demanding millions of dollars in bonuses? >>> and we'll tell you how senator john mccain fits in with congressman louie gohmert's latest conspiracy theory. >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. republicans are walking tall in public but hanging their heads behind closed doors. john boehner struck a defiant tone during a news conference today. he blamed the president and democrats for stalling negotiations on a debt deal. >> despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> tough talk. it's also completely divorced from reality. right b
have been talking about the fiscal cliff, it is like we can just dial back to last summer and yet what has hand since this then [♪ "jeopardy" theme music ♪] >> stephanie: oh, i know the president won in a landslide. [ applause ] >> stephanie: good morning representative sandy levin. >> good morning. >> stephanie: let me borrow a term from john boehner, i am flabbergasted by the budget which they put forward, which is basically paul ryan's budget right? >> more or less. i mean it's basically a repeat. they come up with revenues but they won't touch tax rates, and they don't really say how they get the revenues. they would get it from what they call loopholes, deductions. they don't specify where it would come from so really it's a combination of the ryan budget, and what romney -- governor romney began to say toward the end of the election when he was worried a they were being tabbed as the party of the very wealthy, so he said well we won't lower taxes on the very wealthy, because we'll get ahold of loop holds and deductions, but they never said what they
guest in studio talking about the fiscal cliff and other political news from washington, d.c. yesterday, a historic luncheon at the whitehouse. >> peter: we are not serving turkey chili. we put up a picture of obama and romney in the oval. it's about as close as romney will ever get to that desk. we have it up on facebook for a caption contest. share yours. we will share some of the best ones on the air. facebook.com. >> we are just getting started. >> just getting started. nothing yet. we will let you know here soon some of the captions we get >> bill: go wild. be wicked. peter: have fun with it >> bill: i hope he rubbed it in a little bit. you thought you were going to win. >> do you want to have a seat in this chair? just kidding. >> bill: i. >> i am wondering if he was like, barack, can i have a seat? i hope he at least asked. i am not saying obama should have let him. >> bill: i doubt that he asked. >> i think the president would be thanks for coming down. we appreciate you a well-fought. >> bill: the president unlike the three
at quarterback. sorry, i've just got to say it. so let's talk about the fiscal cliff. >> you don't want to stick on it? >> you want to stick on this? the thing about josh hamilton is, in the 162nd game of the year. >> yeah. >> he basically let a pop fly fall in front of him. >> yeah. >> no effort. >> the irony, of course, is that he probably has the sweetest swing and the most pure talent in baseball. and when he's on, there's no one better. i think he had a four-home run game where every ball was a line drive. it was right on the peg of the bat. if he put it all together, he would have been sitting pretty right now. >> he would have. so fiscal warnings yet to faze wall street. steve rattner, this is a good one to talk to you about with congress and the president seeming to be further and further apart. we're starting to hear well, maybe we can survive the fiscal cliff for a little while. what's going on? >> no, i don't think wall street is saying we can survive fiscal cliff. they're saying i'm not sure we're going over the fiscal cliff. right after the election wall street dropped 5% when every
. >> pretty definite. all right, ron. >> thank you, ron. >>> we'll turn now to if fiscal cliff, 30 days from an economy-crippling deadline. yet talks seem to be going nowhere. treasury secretary timothy geithner will be the guest on "this week" with george stephanopoulos. >> last weekend, you sat right here and you said you were reasonably optimistic that a deal could be afoot. in the intervening week, lot of trash-talking from both sides, can we still be somewhat hopeful? >> this week was a rough week in these negotiations. treasury secretary geithner when he went up to capitol hill, mitch mcconnell laughed when they got the offer from geithner. house speaker boehner said that the talks are at a stalemate. democrats said they're not going to make another move until republicans say they're going to go for an increase in tax rates. so, this is stalemate right now. now, these things always look horrible when they come together. more and more voices say, this is going to go over the fiscal cliff at least for a few days in january. >> if we go over the fiscal cliff, voters will likely blame the
there could be another round of negotiations, talk to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. for the first time in days, president barack obama and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone about the looming fiscal cliff. so far, no word on the details of the conversation but some republican leaders are now asking for a sit-down with the president. the two sides are at a stalemate over raising taxes on incomes over $250,000 a year. 2 >>> taking a look at some of our other top stories this morning. police in fairfax county continue to investigate a scary scene at robinson secondary school in fairfax after a loaded handgun was found inside a student's locker. they insist that proper disciplinary action will be taken and that the students were never in danger. >>> a fairfax county woman is being sued by the map she hired to do handy work at her home after he says she posted negative comments about him on the web sites yelp and angie's list. the woman claimed he did poor work and stole her jewelry to boot. the contractor says the allegations are false and now he is suing her for defamation claiming
for everything he has done. [laughter] and now we can talk about the fiscal cliff. let me start off just by -- we will do the house rules, except we will cut in half. 30 seconds -- then we will have time to elaborate on all this. i want to go through the panel. what do think the odds are that some kind of the deal will be cut by january 1 in order to avoid sequestration and all the tax hikes? mark, i will start with you. >> i think it is 80% that we will avoid sequestration. the question is, though, is this going to be a big enough deal, and will actually be enough of a down payment that it will lead to something else subsequently that will actually avoid the kind of enormous consequences of $16 trillion of debt? that percentage will be lower than the 80%. >> let's come back to the big picture -- in the short term, by january 1 -- will we avoid the cliff? >> i think it is likely that we avoid it. it does not appear that that is going so well. it is so easy for us just to do the things we need to do. i think the real line in the sand is going to be the debt ceiling. i really do think -- i have sai
to see it in the next 48 to 72 hours. >> chuck, we are talking about the fiscal cliff here and basically, i mean, i know next to nothing about the fiscal cliff or the negotiations that are going on. is your sense that there's more going on behind the scenes than what we talk about or what's in the papers? >> you know, i love -- no. there's not. i mean -- >> you mean we're right? >> no, it's one of those -- it's amazing. i think we all assume oh, there's got to be real stuff going on. this is just -- and maybe this is an elaborate ploy, right, that the president and boehner said okay, we're going to do all this and then magically we'll bring it all together as everybody feels everything's going to heck in a handbasket. but no, there's not a lot going on sort of behind the scenes. there isn't a backroom -- yes, rob neighbors who's the chief congressional liaison for the white house, he checks in daily with boehner's and mcconnell's office, but there's not real negotiations going on like we saw in the last ten days. but i also am a little bit of -- i think everybody should just go to -- you
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